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Why ? ;-(

I was planning on visiting the Labrang monastery and the whole Gansu province next September. I hope everything will be under control then...

Hmm, it was unavailable for some reason and now seems to be back online. Weird.

Why would the Net be blocked if the Chinese government really wants the world and Chinese citizens to know the truth ? Something worth hiding ?

Hmm... What's Jiang's role in all of these. Is he trying to create trouble for Hu during meeting of the congresses ?

why dalai nt prevent this violence? he is a peace advocator.

Why are you in China?

-A Bay Area Guy

Hmm... What's Jiang's role in all of these. Is he trying to create trouble for Hu during meeting of the congresses ?
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I'm thinking the same thing.
2008 is the year of chaos to China

Canada Global had video of the 'riots'. I accessed it through the Victoria Times Colonist. Don't know if it's still available but the quality was good.

www.canada.com can be accessed from China at present. There is a clip of the Dalai Lama speaking about the situation.

Dalai monk should have been sentenced to the death penalty.

Why hasn't Dyn been blocked yet?

Love Tony "bay guy's comment
"Why are yu in China". BAY GUY ARE YU Han?

And Arlene's insightful comment. The DAali shoudl be executed. Arlene are yu Han? Living in America too? Waht are yu doing in America?

Han fascism is the enemy here. Han fascists shoudl be executed. Whew

The Dalai Lama is advocating a peaceful protest. He again, is asking for assistance from other countries and again is not being assisted. Did we not learn ANYTHING from the last time this happened?????? If Bush does nothing to help, he is just as guilty of these deaths than China is. We don't help countries that do not have oil? Is that it? I am so ashamed of the US right now. My heart and prayers go out to the Tibetan people--those who have been tortured and held captive for years and those who are standing up for their rights, as well as the Dalai Lama himself, who can only stand by helpless. This is heart breaking.

hello!
i am chinese.what is Nationality are you?

kill dalai, kill all splittists.
-------------a chinese

Well, maybe next time, after successfully organizing an attact in america, osama should condem these who practice the product. Then people in america would be appreciating about his words and people will grant him Nobel Peace Price for allah's sake.

If it hurts your feeling, Micheal.I am sorry. I am not against you. Just exhausted of some people's views.

Come on, mate. James, Peace Above All, have you ever thing of what really happened there? Have you ever thing over what you've been told by mass media, text book, or these fantacy books. I've got lh@sa tibeten friends. I've got mates working and living in Lh@sa. The local people live well together. There would be arguments, as people in any cities on this good earth would have. Issues about jobs, education, healthy, conpensations. How would that be different when these things happen between Han people and Zang people, especially when they are ruled under the same law. Or simply because never ever is any news agency for biz's sake want to rise an argument concerning a Nobel Prize winner, under the rule of whom before 1949, people in Tibel were actually living as slaves. Please don't take me wrong, I'm not refering black slaves in america in 18 century. What I am talking about is a horrible social structure mainly existing before the birth of Jesus worldwide, but actively running under the mercy of Dalailama's government. Gosh, had Harriet Stowe been in Tibet under the rules of Dalais, she would have no desire to write Uncle Tom's Cabinet. No way, mate, these aferican american people in 18&19 centuries lived in heaven. Go and listen to local people there, you will hear the words saying "well, we don't like tons of government's wrongdoing, but there is no way we are to become Dalai's slave again".

In any country, there would be some people who want to establish their own country. Even when I was in middle school, I've heard things about scotland, texas, quebec, that district in spain I cannot remember its name. Some conducts it in a peaciful way, some not. Also, again, there might be violent conducts against police, at least that's their duty. But it's a shame to attact innocent pass-byer. In no way these actions should be justified.

I felt great relief when I finally found out one of my friends was safe in Sichuan province. She was lucky. Her plan to arrive at Lh@sa was canceled 'cause her boss sent her to do something else. Lots of people in Lh@sa, these of han people, zang people, hui people(chinese muslims), were not lucky. Some of them were attacted on the street simply 'cause they happened to passed by. Some of them lost their wealth for no reason. Sorry to say that, but I failed to find out any sympathy from CNN, BBC, ABC, NY Times, The Guardian, etc. I have been following Madeleine McCann's coverage since its happening. How would it be different while bolt concerning people's lives. I don't get it. Anyone who has the answer please post it here.

After years of yellow peril, chinks, commnist evil, and also these stereotypic figures（Dr. Fu Manchu，Goldfinger). Mate, don't you feel bored of that. In 2006, I was reading threads from the bulletin of Military.com. There was on american guy speaking of these dry textbook style words. Some of his compatriots told him they'd been to china, and it's different from the China actively fantacying in his mind. I mean that's the right spirit, in China we got tons of problems, and people in china are kicking the shit out of local stupid officials. But what Mr. Don Quixote was blaming was merely sureal and had nothing to do with People's Republic of China on this very planet with a given name of earth. And his reaction was quite refreshing, if I may use this word. "You idiots, you have been brainwashed by Chinacons. That country is just a pice of shit, and I will never go to that disgusting place."

Well, that's all for me.

The final "verdict" leaves to your people to make.

There two James posting here . I am James the Firstn commenting on Chinese fascists. Jmaes the second is teh one who feels sorry for the Tibetans etc. It is not me....as for Lisong and Peace above All - I direct yu to my first posting concerning fascists or Han Chauvinists. I thoufght Mao said he got rid of them out of China. Those right wing Han fascists....ahhh.. Maoze Dong lied again....

I see. Many things clearly now. Thanks James the First. i also see what a great big happy family the Chinese nation is recently- oh waht harmony and peace and equlaity they exp[erience- I mean when they allk say Hao- Hao -Hao everything is Hao-unles syu are a Tibetan or uyghur- then yu are a bad splittist who deserves DEATh. OH BRING ON THE OLYMPICS you CHINESE ARE REALY GONNA FUCK THAT UP for the entire world to see- as george bush says : 'bring it on'

Why are people starving?
Because the rulers eat up the money in taxes.
Therefore the people are starving.
Why are the people rebellious?
Because the rulers interfere too much.
Therefore they are rebellious.

Why do people think so little of death?
Because the rulers demand too much of life.
Therefore the people take life lightly.

Having to live on, one knows better than to value life too much.

Lao Tsu

. . . I have three precious things which I prize and hold fast to. The first is gentleness; the second is economy; and the third is avoiding taking precedence over others. With that gentleness I can be bold; with that economy I can be liberal; avoiding taking precedence over others, I can become the vessel of the highest honor. These days men give up gentleness and are all for being bold; they give up economy, and are all for liberality; they are all in last place, and seek only to be in the first place. The end of all these things is death.
Gentleness is sure to be victorious even in battle, and maintain its ground firmly. Heaven will save its possessor: his very gentleness will save him.

laozi

Some more words from the sage for those Chinese who have forgotten:

"What makes a great state is its being like a low-lying, down-flowing stream; it becomes the center to which all other states under heaven tend. . . .
Thus it is that a great state, by condescending to small states, gains them for itself; and that small states, by abasing themselves to a great state, win it over to them. In the one case the abasement leads to gaining adherents, in the other case to procuring favor.
The great state only wishes to unite men together and nourish them; a small state only wishes to be received by, and to serve, the other. Each gets what it desires, but the great state must learn to abase itself."

Laozi

THANKS JAMES THE fIRST

I did not notice there are two James. Shame on me:).

Thanks for the posts from Laozi's book.

I admit I did not realise it's his words in english in the first place. Along with Zhuangzi's theory, they both encourage people to explore deeply in an inner world of mind. However disordered the outer world might be, you could still find peace in your mind and keep moving forward. I do own a big favour to them.

To James the first: If you can read chinese, you'll find out there never be a lack of these extremest, in the past, right now or in the future. On forum we simply call them idiots. Their ideology has been many times proved worng by the history of China itself. One of core value of Chinese culture is people don't give a s**t about your race, origin, etc as long as you're influenced by Chinese culture. These idiots state they want a country of pure chinese, the funny thing is you even could not find a pure han person 2000 years ago, let alone now. I myself am very proud of the fact I have blood from more than 5 ethnic groups. Probably the number would reach 20, if you count in these already disspeared in history.

To James the Second: Mate, please don not be so patronizing. Every one knows in China we have lots of problems, if you got chance to read government report "Many things clearly" then. There would be riots, in case the current policy fails to work. Then comes the new policy, until it doen't fit this fast-changing world again.
While refering to Olympics, most people feel pround of it and be angry about those who mess with it. 5 years ago, you could still find people cite words from CNN, BBC, etc and they felt justified about that on chinese forum. How about now, after "MDW in Iraq", "iranian ambition towards nukes", "Sadam supported Al Qaeda" ..., the credibility of these media is just on the line. People have their own view. It's easy to mislead people once, but no one can always do so.
It's people's nature to be split by opinions. Therefore there would also be a load of guys who want to mess with Olympics. What can we do? We live our life and live with these people. Let the sport fans enjoy the Olympics, and let the people consumed with hatred enjoy their plot. It may be painful for us to watch the news report, but it also can be sheer joy for those organized such a riot and put people's life on the line, only to serve the purpose of getting attention from mass media.

治大国，若烹小鲜.
Governing a country is like cooking food(imply people should plan and conduct policy carefully).
----Laozi

Sorry for my dry translation.

"I was planning on visiting the Labrang monastery and the whole Gansu province next September. I hope everything will be under control then..."

Way to only think of yourself. These people are fighting for their freedom, culture and religion against oppression and dying for it. Your biggest concern is whether or not it will disrupt your vacation plans.

Thats right all people care about is their bloody exotic holidays. Tourism sucks. Western views of the east still suck- Orientalism abounds- so does reverse Orientalism: that is Chinese Han Chauvanism and Paternalism toward the ethnic minority- they are not ethnic minorities in fact only when placed within the historical lie of China's one big happy nation fiction. Down with Han imperialism. Down with western voyeurism..Achtung!!! James the first

Richard Yu watered down the first Laozi postings- by inserting a nebulous one- China must humble itself to be great - they are still practitioners of Da Han zhu yi- Greater Han chauvinism - that is their problem- they are IMPERIaLISTS IN Tibet. The Yuan Dynasty was when China belonged to Mongolia. how can Tibet have belonged, belonged they say to Chna since the Yuan dynasty. James the First

James check who the author is of statements before you "speak". Negative comments about the Dalai Lama were posted by dyn not myself and yes I do live in China.

Foreign tourists witnessed the insane attackes on Han Chinese and Hui Muslims:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/03/18/wtibet718.xml

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,23401794-25837,00.html

Tibetan and faux-lama are insane.the one needs the west or the ancient,back to the west or the ancient.the one wants to be madman or slave,back to asylum or tomb.
China needs calm,every chinese keeps a modern history in his mind,they know what they need after more than 170 years' national failure.leave us alone,we solve our issues,it is none of your business.

You mention Tibet was controlled by China for hundreds of years, true, and never during that time have they ever had a violent independence movement. Why?

Because their culture was respected. Now, China has clearly showed that it's intention is, ultimately, to completely destroy Tibetan culture.

They've outlawed the teaching of the Tibetan language, repeatedly attacked destroyed religious sites, and imported millions of Han Chinese, who, under the government's guidance, are heavily discriminating against them and worsening their poverty. (This is recently, not even talking about the cultural revolution, when they obliterated nearly every Buddhist monastery in Tibet. )

China wants to create a singular communist state, and without (and possibly with) heavy International pressure and oversight, they're going to continue to do so in every way possible.

Now, obviously A for tibet solution is independence, but that's highly unlikely to happen.

Personally, I think India should invade Tibet. Within their own borders, They have made the preservation of minority religions, languages, and culture a national priority.

tibetan are respected.what is culture/budha/karma?are you clear with any of them?what do you want to say?
I think india has tried decades ago.maybe it could try again,and we take new delhi after that.

To James the first: Mate, that's all words from that great man but concerning two different aspects. I do not usually cherry pick words. No offense:).

Well, I think you and me have different definition for Han Chauvanism. I don't think in today's china, the government is a practioner of that. Still, I would be glad to hear your say of it in detail.

On the second issue,Yuan Dynasty is one of several dynasties that ruled China in the past. While talking of this, we have to go back to chinese sense of world. For thousands of years, china was more of a huge community with people shared the same cunture but not a country in modern sense. So for a standard person in Yuan Dynasty or dynasties after it, the word "world" merely limited the part of asia aroud china. In this "world", people tended to believe "普天之下莫非王土(all the land in "the world" belong to our emporer). That's one of important reason we have land issues with neighbour countries. Right now, we are different countries in a world of planet earth, but if they, say vietnam, were powerful enough to conquer china after Yuan Dynasty and established a dynasty of any name, which somehow followed the core value of chinese culture. It would be deemed as a chinese dynasty. Because would this had happened, this would all happened in "the world". In light of such a background people here would accept it as part of chinese history. This also partly explains why Genghis Khan is widely respected in china as one of the top heros in the past. Actually he is among my collection of ancient chinese heros. This sense of world continued for thousands of years, until that very momenent in 19 century, what was called "三千年未有之大变局(translated as the changes we chinese haven't seen in three thousand years)" by Li Hung-chang, a leading statesman in Qin Dynasty. We are dragged into a wider world of earth planet. And the sense of what a modern country would be was created and widespreaded with the time expense of another century and lift cost of over the current population of United States of America.

That's why in people's sense Tibet is part of china since Yuan Dynasty. Obviously that sense is not right, because Tibet remained part of china long before Yuan Dynasty was established.

And further more, the Republic of Mongolia was once part of china, also the far east part of russia, etc. Why don't people in china claim it as "a permenant part of china"? Well, simply because we have an established and friendly relationship with the countried mentioned above. In such a world of globalization, it's old hat to try to gain more land but an essential task for every government to protect its own land from been split.

To Joe: Sorry, mate. I'm not clearly sure which country you're talking about. China? Seems what you discribed is from fantacy books.

Still ,I remember the initial shocks for those youngsters who ultimately had their day in american, when china adopted its policy of opening up and reforem, shortly after the end of cultural revolution. "Unbelievable, the working class people in america are not as poor as they're portrayed in our country's newspapers. How do we start help beslaved american worker, among whom nearly every family has their own washing mashine, get liberated from capicalists, given the background the same gadget is bloody mere in China?"

That's a joke, from real life.

Some times people are misled by the media, as the very nature of it is to mislead people.

I am a native chinese living in one of china's 5 autonomous regions. I've been here for years.Don't get why your view is so out of touch from real life.

"to completely destroy Tibetan culture"

What do you mean by Tibetan culture? Why is the very existance of their culture didn't conflict with the fact that it's part of china, according to your words, but so does now?

I don't know how you made such a judgement. Here's a link, by which you can have glimpse of on part of their culture. That's the skin peeled off tibeton people. So disgusting and whether to see it is on you. I am glad this part of their culture has been destroyed, would you join me? Before 1950s, tibet, as a region, its politics and religion were united together, as part of their culture and heritage. I am glad now in tibet the politics and religion stay at their own part, would you join me? So far as I know, Dalai Lama doesn't fancy these, especially about the fact he's lost his privilege in Tibet.
http://ent.singtaonet.com/feitures/qctlxw/tj/W020060630343168708592.jpg

"They've outlawed the teaching of the Tibetan language"

Be an international teacher there, mate, you'll be well respected as a friendly person helping chinese people learn a widely used language but not that of "cultural genocide". The only thing I should offer is this picture shot at one Lh@sa bus station about the widespread usage of the language "they've outlawed the teaching".

http://img.focus.cn/upload/photo/blog282/2828970.jpg

Call the number on it to speak Tibetan language with local people:)

"repeatedly attacked destroyed religious sites"

I still have no idea why a "destroyed" place should be attacked "repeatedly"? That costs money, mate. People love and treasure money, especially those in china.

"and imported millions of Han Chinese, who, under the government's guidance"

I suppose in your country, as in china, no ethnic groups are banned from moving freely to the place of whatsoever if they intend so.

About the cultural revolution, here's a little secret that has been kept for ages. It's offical claimed by the government as wrongdoing. And, not only in tibet, everywhere in china temples were attacked during these crazy days. Along with it, churches, mosques, and government buildings of nearly all levels. And even worse, after the cultural revolution, the government, at least I think so, spent hell loads of money to repair these temples, churches, mosques, etc which we need cash for our medical and education systems. As a result of that, we have much more of these places now. That's really stupid, don't you think so?

Richard your sense of history is sino-centric and yu are a candidate for Han chhauvinist of the year. Get un brainwashed then maybe one day yu'll see things from the position of the colonized and the oppressed. Modern China as it stands is a fiction. To challenge the historical lie is to be killed. You know that. Laozu was a Tibetan hahahah. James the First.

PS. Read Neil's editorial onthe homepage today. Kill and suppress minority people in the modern state and yu shall be rewarded with position and power- go Hu, go Wang, go Zhang yo boys !!!!!!!

Finally Richard as long as yu operate as a mouth piecer for CCP propagandaa and Han paternalism ( and that is clear to any one reading here who is not brainwashed). You are wasting your time. We know yu are not in China...."mate,"....why not? Its so great there, so free, so enlightened!!!!???????

For Richard the apologist:

DEATH in Ngaba

http://thesouloftibet.blogspot.com/2008/03/eight-dead-bodies-brought-into-ngaba.html

Disturbing photos of dead lamas in Sichuan

http://www.tchrd.org/

Richard try this site for the pics of dead monks in the Ngaba morgue. Thsoe naughty minorities must be disciplined for their behaviour. Big daddy knows best. How would yu feel if that was yr brother, father, uncle or son?

This one may be blocked: Its got the morgue shots

http://www.tchrd.org/