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November 10, 2007
Uyghur Muslims, Uyghur Commies.
The excellent PBS series China from the Inside was first broadcast more than six months ago, but I've just gotten around to posting this Xinjiang-related clip on YouTube:
The shots of the famous bazaar in Kashgar are nice, but what I thought might be more interesting for many of you are the interviews with Uyghur members of the Communist Party of China. Listening to Ismayil Tiliwaldi - who serves as the Chairman of Xinjiang's "autonomous" regional government - explain his conversion from Islam to communism makes an important point that everyone should keep in mind. That is, not all Uyghurs are separatists, nor are they all even Muslims.
Just like anywhere else in the world, sentiments in Xinjiang aren't as black and white as the over-simplified reports in most newspapers and magazines would lead one to believe. In fact, I'm sure that it's about 1,000-times more common for a Uyghur to join the Party and get a cushy government job than it is for one to engage in foolhardy attempts to split the great Chinese motherland!
Think about it. What would you do if you were a Uyghur in Xinjiang? Or, as that old bumper sticker says: WWYDIYWAUIX?
posted November 10, 2007 at 12:23 AM unofficial Xinjiang time | HaoHao This!
Comments
I'm going to have to look into that series. I wish I had known about it when it ran. Still, I have a problem: It never said "Uyghurs", which would have been nice because I have no idea how to pronounce the word.
Posted by: Tiako at November 10, 2007 02:06 AM
We give up - what do those letters stand for
PS Mom saw many hats like the one you gave Norm.
The little boy praying with his dad has split pants on - did you notice that?
Posted by: Norm & Mom at November 10, 2007 06:27 AM
Awesome! I've always wondered what Ismail Tilwaldi looked like, and the Wikipedia article never provided.
Incidentally he looks exactly like I thought he would. =D
Posted by: Vincent at November 10, 2007 07:37 AM
@Tiako:
Uyghur is pronounced "WEEgr" in English, although this is still pretty far off from how the Uyghurs say it themselves. If you want to be authentic, which I don't recommend because it makes you sound funny as hell, say "oi-HOOR", with a rough "H" that comes straight out of your throat. (Like the pronunciation in Hebrew of the "ch" sound in L'chaim.)
@Norm & Mom:
WWYDIYWAUIX stands for, "What would you do if you were a Uyghur in Xinjiang?"... you know, like WWJD, "What would Jesus do?" I was trying to be funny.
Posted by: michael at November 10, 2007 08:50 AM
By the way, those of you who've missed some of my video posts in the past should check out my YouTube channel here.
Posted by: michael at November 10, 2007 09:13 AM
I am bothered by one aspect of the posted vid. Here I am sitting in front of my apple that I bought in Dalian, sipping an Americano while hoards of shoppers walk by the Shengli GuangCheng Starbucks from where I write this reply... Ive looked under my seat but Communism is no where to be seen. The vid showed it from the perspective of those fanatical about a failed ideology, I wonder what everyone else thinks..??
Posted by: Bai_Xin at November 10, 2007 10:24 AM
"Communism" was simply a selling point Mao used to get funding, intel and weapons from the USSR, but China has always been feudal.
Posted by: nanheyangrouchuan at November 10, 2007 11:30 AM
WWYDIYWAUIX?
You know, a nice question... A always think about it as I am an Uyghur born and living in Kazakhstan. Hope next year I will see everything with my own eyes.
thanks for the video, especially Mr. Tilivaldi, he really looks as he should do.
Posted by: chon_dada at November 10, 2007 06:05 PM
It's very sad to see these Uyghur-born people having Chinese souls, minds, and beliefs. Man, they even look like Chinese. Sad...
Posted by: Rus at November 10, 2007 08:21 PM
Michael - That's actually how I thought it was pronounced, but it seemed too far from the spelling. I guess forgot that people who create transliteration systems are the greatest idiots the world has yet known. Pinyin alone takes up at least 5% of the world's idiocy.
Posted by: Tiako at November 10, 2007 10:28 PM
Communisim, as an political ideology, may have shifted and moved on, with the demice of tumultous Mao era. But as an usuful institutional framework, it's an essential arsinal in store for in taming the "barbarians" from the "autonomous" places. Cultural Revolution may have shelved into the memories in most of China. But, if one travels to the remote parts of Xinjiang, one may started to think otherwise.
Posted by: Sada, at November 22, 2007 09:11 AM
China has 55 ethnic minorities and total 123 million people. Both Tibetans (5 million, 4.1% of the total minority) and Uyghurs (7 million, 5.7%) are just 10% of the total minority in China. One obvious question you have to ask is why these 10% minority has problems as accused by the Western news media while the other 90% minorities are happily living in China? Is this because of some people outside China instill and incite the hatred, and their activities are backed up by American CIA and its front organizations, such as “National Endowment for Democracy"("NED") who has funded "Training the (Uyghur) Leaders of Tomorrow" in Hague May this year. http://www.uyghurcongress.org/En/pressrelease.asp?ItemID=-1054200069
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=6530
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article4332.htm
http://www.saag.org/papers2/paper115.html
Posted by: win096 at November 22, 2007 09:58 PM
I think we should look at those "problimatic" 10% historically. I am afraid the politically correct official history may not do justice to the historical experience of China, and the non-Han others. Before labelling any collective group as "problimatic", just step back a bit and try to reflect impartially, without the prejudice interfering, on the FACTS, which may help to clarify some hazy doubts we have.
Posted by: Sada at November 24, 2007 05:36 PM
Xinjiang and Tibet will see their independence come. I am sure of it. China may seem to get stronger, but that is precisely its achillies heel. China can only hold on to these territories if it is weak.
Posted by: Jack at January 15, 2008 10:23 PM
