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June 07, 2007

Dubya & Rebiya Sittin' in a Tree

George W. Bush and Rebiya Kadeer meet in Prague. June 5, 2007.

Say, who's that handsome feller pawin' the nifty Uyghur beanie? Well if it ain't George W. Bush!

For those of you who don't know, the world's spreader of freedom-in-chief met with exiled Uyghur leader Rebiya Kadeer in Prague on Tuesday. I didn't think I'd ever see a photo of a US president posing with a Uyghur doppa... but I've been proved wrong. Now, if he had only tried the thing on, that would have been a photo.

I don't have any particular insight to add to this story, so I'll just give you the facts straight. (I'm a straight-shooter, y'see?) Bush said this:

Another dissident I will meet here is Rebiyah Kadeer of China, whose sons have been jailed in what we believe is an act of retaliation for her human rights activities. The talent of men and women like Rebiyah is the greatest resource of their nations, far more valuable than the weapons of their army or their oil under the ground. America calls on every nation that stifles dissent to end its repression, to trust its people, and to grant its citizens the freedom they deserve.

Here are the President's full remarks. In response, China Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Jiang Yu said this:

Rebiya Kadeer is an out-and-out criminal. US behaviour is crude meddling in China's internal affairs, and we express our strong dissatisfaction and opposition.

Predictably, the meeting isn't being publicized here in Xinjiang. A Uyghur friend of mine who is more or less in-the-know was completely surprised when I asked if he'd heard the news. He grinned as I told him, and his first response was, "Wow, that's amazing news! I can't believe it."

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posted June 07, 2007 at 11:57 PM unofficial Xinjiang time | HaoHao This!

Comments

Finally her master spared two minutes for her to pose for cameras. Just look how happy she is,an old haggard so happy that she is like a 5 year old girl, or an old bitch so happy that she thought herself as a young lap dog puppy. Enjoy your 15 seconds of fame, bitch. it's surely a precious moment. I wish somebody had a Kodak there.

Posted by: office dweller at June 8, 2007 05:31 AM

Oh if you are collecting caption for this picture, here is my entry: Get a room, 老母狗 and your 主子。

Posted by: office dweller at June 8, 2007 05:35 AM

I'm pretty surprised by this one. What's next, Cheney petitioning for Celil's freedom? Good day for Rebiyah and her homeboys (see, that was a Uighur pun... werd yo) to be sure.

@OD: You're a dork.

Posted by: The Humanaught at June 8, 2007 06:11 AM

Rebiya Kadeer is a great leader of her people. No wonder what nationality her haters belong to.

Posted by: Qazaq at June 8, 2007 07:49 AM

Get a room, old bitch and your master, so that your master can 'pet' you, and you can lick your master's...., oh, hand.

Posted by: office dweller at June 8, 2007 08:50 AM

Give this woman the Nobel Prize for bringing to light China's pure, unadulterated evil nature. The Gulja massacre is only the tip of the iceberg, China has been trying to suppress this region since the Tang dynasty and since the Qing dynasty has laid a heavy hand on it.

Let China kill her, she would be a muslim martyr for AQ and the Taliban.

Turkey, Iran, Russia and the US can put aside their differences to liberate E. Turkmenistan from the vile grip of the CCP.

China is just a filthy junkyard anyway, no wonder the Uyghurs want to leave.

Posted by: nanheyangrouchuan at June 8, 2007 11:59 AM

Alright, children... behave! Let's not rehash the same old bullshit over and over again.

Posted by: michael at June 8, 2007 12:20 PM


It`s kinda funny coz you guys don`t really have a steady mind and a not really educated stubborn little head .Although you think you`r kinda educated but you`ll never know that your education system is a total failure.you guys can`t really see what`s wrong with yourselfs and start to criticize other nations who don`t like you,coz it`s obious that there`s no educated people loves you !
It`s sooooooo funny ,coz this`s never gonna change! never and ever, coz you guys won`t understand this till the end of time!
(By the way, i never use filthy terms here ,coz i`m an educated people)

Posted by: alien at June 8, 2007 09:39 PM

Do Japanese like you? Do Russian people like you ? Do middle Asians? Nooooooo thay don`t ,coz you don`t really deserve that? Do you?

Posted by: alien at June 8, 2007 09:45 PM

@alien, what you said can be applied to any country on the face of the world. Who are you addressing to here, China or USA? Because i find your words applicable to both countries equally well, or in that matter, any other coutry.

Posted by: office dweller at June 8, 2007 11:27 PM

Geez, come on don't turn Michael's great site into crap, you mofos!

Posted by: alien's bro at June 9, 2007 08:49 AM

@nanheyangrouchuan,

Why you hate Rebiya so much and want her dead? Looks you think she is part of AQ and Taliban? Also you don't know enough history, China moved its hand in this area from Han Dynasty and Uyghur at that time still lived around Eastern Mongolia and Manchuria region.

As you request for US, Iran, Turkey and Russia to liberate "Turkimenistan", I have no problem. LOL.

@alien

The recent poll from all the WORLD said that they think China is a more responsible country than USA as a superpower. They like China. You can read TIME magazine for this report.

Posted by: sha at June 9, 2007 02:30 PM

Thank you Michael, for opening such a good platform for discussing anything we want! although there some kinda crazy guys`r screwing up.

Posted by: alien at June 9, 2007 05:21 PM

No matter how one feels about Rebiya Kadeer, the telling aspect of all this is that China is trying to keep the meeting a secret. Hey China, what about the marketplace of ideas?

Posted by: China Law Blog at June 10, 2007 04:19 AM

"Why you hate Rebiya so much and want her dead?"

She is a hero, I don't want her dead, but if China kills her she becomes a martyr, so her death would not be a loss in some ways.

And on a second front, the US/China trade war has begun.

http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/06/08/africa/food.php

Posted by: nanheyangrouchuan at June 10, 2007 04:54 AM

The 3-day old yangrouchuan is just getting stinkier and stinkier. The more days you don't throw it in the trash, the more stinky it gets.

And the marketplace of free ideas? That would work in an ideal world. However, we all know who has the money, resources, experiences, will and even the language to control the propaganda machine of the whole world, the USA and the west in general. To quote some American senators, 'we don't have a level playing field' when it comes to the fight for ideas and influences on world opinions. That's why China has no choice but to play defensive, at least at this stage. And controling domestic information flow is one aspect of this policy. We can't play by the same rules since there is not level playing field. In the same token, Iraqi people don't fight American invaders by conventional wars in open field, unless they want to be exterminated in 15 seconds like some sitting ducks. They have to play a different kind of game. Reminding me of some post written by one American nationalist on some forum, 'terrorists, come out and fight us like a real man.' Fortuantely Iraqi resistance forces are not that stupid, and American soliders who hide behind their safe shield and want to destory their enemies in distance without close contact don't qualify for real men. I suggest an old fashioned one on one physical fight if the Americans really have the urge to show what 'real man' they are, no long distance precision target missiles. That's what I call a level playing ground.

Posted by: office depot at June 10, 2007 05:35 AM

It is just that simple. If China wants to kill Rebiya, she would not leave the country alive. Rebiya is been accused as a seperatist and not a terrorist. So unless she picks up weapon and joined the fight, she will be become a martyr any soon.

As our Turkic brothers in Turkey showed that when a coutry's national security is at stake, they have no problem to move into North Iraq to fight for their sovereignty. In case of China, we don't have to send troops out since our Turkic brothers of Kirgiz, Uzibeks, Shaka brothers of Khazaks, Iranian brothers of Tajiks and Pakistanis will wipe out those seperatists terriosts for us. LOL.

Posted by: sha at June 10, 2007 06:38 AM

the only thing i wonder about is her hair...
when is her last haircut?

Posted by: MeowKun at June 10, 2007 09:26 AM

As you may or may not know, MeowKun, Uyghurs are very very fond of super-long hair. All of the pretty dancing girls one sees in music videos or in public ceremonies have hair that reaches at least to the top of their rear end.

Posted by: michael at June 10, 2007 11:05 AM

Jeez, why so many oddballs reading this great blog? This is a very interesting entry that raises many questions. Since Kadeer lives in DC why are they meeting in Prague? Why do the Chinese hate this lady so much and persecute her family so relentlessly? What was this meeting about - its objective? Anyone know?

Compare this entry with the story from the NY Times about the Uyghurs in Albania and then ask why the US doesn't just let the Uyghurs live in the US? And the most curious of all is why are the Albanians, and 100 other countries, so afraid of the Chinese? China doesn't have anything worth fearing.

Posted by: jay casey at June 10, 2007 04:14 PM

@jay casey,

Meeting in Prague is for human right issues. Basically, if you are not a Western country, you cannot abuse human rights and get away with it. Regime change is on the way for you. But if you are a Western country, it is OK. Like in Gitmo.

Why ordinary Chinese hates this lady? Because they believe that she is the leader of seperation movement. This is not a moral issue but an interest issue. If you want to China be unified, of course, you don't like any seperaton leaders, but if you want to China to be divided, of course, you will love those seperation leaders. Her sons are in jail because her sons are helpers on her movement.

Objective of Bush's meeting? Raising the issue for consession from China. Like "if you give us these and that, then we will not assist on this Uyghur independance movement".

Why US doesn't just let those guys live in the US? Well, US labled whoever live in Gitmo as most dangrous evildoers in the whole human being who want to destroy American life and freedome (so any kind of tortures are morally OK on those poor souls). So let those "ultra terrorists" live in USA? You must be out of your mind. For other countries? For non-Muslim Europeans, you have local Muslims after their own country--like in Spain and UK, so no way someone will take this extra burden for pretty much no gain. For other Muslim countries? For example, if Turkey wants people support its claim to keep Kurdish Turkey, it cannot support groups that want to split from other country. It is perfect for Albania because it is promoting Kosovo independance.

Posted by: sha at June 11, 2007 07:45 AM

The US doesn't have the ability to process so many Uyghurs, and they don't want to abandon their rightful homeland to give to bad Han.

The US may end up being a refugee camp for 20 million taiwanese in the next ten years.

Posted by: nanheyangrouchuan at June 11, 2007 10:28 AM

So she's an nationalist. But why is she there in the US? One of my relatives is a dissident, and the gov wants him to go abroad, but he doesn't.

And nobody forbid her to wear her Uighur clothing, why is she in that non-Uighur suit?

Xiyu has been China's territory since at least Han dynasty, where were your ancestors at that time? Sometimes the landlord lets someone live on his land and one day that "someone" suddenly claims it's his land. Why don't you just go back to your mid-asia home?

Oh by the way, Qing Dynasty was not a real Chinese dynasty, if the emperors of Qing did something bad to you guys(they've done worse thing on us), you should go talk to those Manchus.

Posted by: Fish at July 25, 2007 03:06 PM

I wonder what will Ms. Rebiya say when she meet the PKK leaders that fight her Turkic brothers. Will she support the Kurds in the name of human rights?

Posted by: Adi at December 28, 2007 05:03 PM

@ fish

Qing is one of China's greatest dynasties. Qing expanded China's domain twofolds. Qing emperors were also genuine admirers of Chinese culture.

There is a reason why great men like Zeng Guofan and Zuo Zongtang spent their lives defending Qing. There are few stories so moving as Zuo Zongtang's recapture of the West.

Despite some bad years toward the end, the Qing empire remained much larger than the current PRC.

And the Qing literati were truly Chinese. They were proud of their ancient traditions, whether Confucianism, Daoism, Buddhism, Shamanism, or Traditional Chinese Religion. This contrasts strongly with the predominant intellectual trends in China after the May 4th movement.

Even today, most Chinese scholars have not recovered the Qing pride in their own culture, religion, and way of life.

Posted by: abstract at December 31, 2007 03:16 PM

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