I wonder whether it is a Nobel "Peace" Prize or a Nobel "Democracy" Prize?

I really appreciate your blog. It's a part of the world I have always wanted to visit, and now with the internet, I can see your photos and read your news. Sometimes it makes it a lot less romantic, compared with the older travel books I have been reading since my school days. But then, it won't be a shock if I ever get there.

Michael, how's life for normal Uyghurs now?

Nobel "Peace" Prize is going to advocate another
War after Rebiya Kadeer was chosen as the candidate. The splittists get what Westerners called Democracy while more and more local people suffering murders,threaten and instable.
The splittists get money and fame while local Muslim lost their freedom and wealth.
Most important of all,the fate of Xinjiang should be decided by local people.The Westerners should keep their hands and tongues away from other people's homeland.

Chinese spokesman questions motives for nominating Rabiya for Nobel prize
13 September 2006
BBC Monitoring Asia Pacific

Text of report by reporter Lin Liping by official Chinese news agency Xinhua (New China News Agency) Asia-Pacific service

Beijing, 12 September: In response to a reporter's question on 12 September, Foreign Ministry spokesman Qin Gang said that East Turkistan element Rabiya's remarks and actions are aimed at undermining the peace and stability of Chinese society, and this runs counter to the original intention of the Nobel peace prize.

At a routine new conference, Qin Gang said: Rabiya is an East Turkistan element and has been arrested and sentenced by China's judicial organ for damaging national security. Now Rabiya, in collusion with the East Turkistan terrorist forces outside the borders, has distorted the facts and maliciously attacked the Chinese government under the pretext of "democracy" and "human rights". He has frequently engaged in anti-China activities with an attempt to split Xinjiang from China.

Qin Gang said that Rabiya's remarks and actions are aimed at undermining the peace and stability of Chinese society, and this runs counter to the original intention of the Nobel peace prize; What is the motive behind the nomination of such a person as a Nobel prize candidate?

Source: Xinhua news agency, Beijing, in Chinese 1118 gmt 12 Sep 06

You are right Long.
"fate of Xinjiang" should be decided by LOCAL people.

Thank you Michael,

All what you said are right and that was, is the main problem. The fate of Xinjiang should be decided by local people and local people fighting for this since occupation by PR. China.
Don't try adding the endless chinese immigrants to the local people.

Because local people have no possibility to express their own voice in their own land and therefore it came out in abroad.
"Westerners should keep their hands and tongues away from Xin.....", before saying this you have to say first "we chinese have to keep our hands and tongues away from other people's homeland."!

>>"You are right Long.
>>"fate of Xinjiang" should be decided by LOCAL >>people.

>>Thank you Michael, "

Fate decided by the locals, so funny, coz NO Way.

we were imposed with those unfair treaties by the west, and now we have to 'respect' the will of those uighurs, just drop us a-bombs to force us to comply if u can and dare to do so.

its so naive to think we will give xinjiang away while so much oil hidden.

and chinese won't be afraid of rebiya, she's no use, just another pitty woman 'cries' in front of west n chanting 'long live democracy' to make the westerners to like her. uighurs...bunches of thieves they are in the eastern chinese cities...

the japs + the west did such things to china, and we will do exactly the same thing to others for VENDETTA!

己所不欲，勿施于人 -- Confucius --

search this article if its safe
“Trafficked *U*y*g*h*u*r* Children May Not See Home Again”

Thanks

they are thieves, everyone knows it, n i don care whether they have home or not.

n china became weak bcoz of those confucious stuff, you should read Hanfeizi.

乱弱者亡，人之性也；治强者王，古之道也.

and that what china is heading to.

OIL OIL OIL OIL OIL

we are doing exactly the same as what the US's strategy in the ME, kick out those anti-US govts, and set up pro-US govts so you guys can get their OIL.

Democracy and freedom...huh....as if u really care...

We are doing the same thing, so why blame us, even u do, drop us A-bombs to force us to comply OK? Try it.

Well,I am not native English speakers.
Maybe U have misunderstood my words.
Branden,you are too drastic. I think you konw quit few about Chinese.

In fact,many Uyghurs are famous in China.For example,Adi Jiang.(阿的江,I don't know how to say his name in English.) He is a former basketball star in 1990s,who is loved by Chinese basketball fans including Hans,Uyghurs and other races.

Hans and Uyghurs have lived together for more than thousands years.We are so familiar with each other.Don't stir up troubles between us.We have our own rights to live peacefully.

Maybe the ethnic minorities in America such as black people are been treated as slaves.Blacks and Whites have deep-rooted rancor. But things are too different in China.

Hitay,where are you come from? Tibet? Really?Have you ever seen mountains?Mind your own business!

YAPONLUQ,have you ever been to Japan?F**k!You are Japanese!

Americans should never forget what had happened to Pearl Harbor. Never forget who is on your side in WWⅡ.Never forget Viet Nam.Never forget Iraq.

What have you done?In 1980s,Bin Laden were given weapons by CIA to fight against USSR troops for "an democratic and free Afghanistan".In 2001,flights dominated by Mr.Bin Laden cracked into two towers as a reply.It's not over.He called jihad or holy war from the Muslim World to fight against United States.East Turkistan troops attaching to Al-Qaeda had also been found in Afghanistan.

Michael,are you come from New York?How about your life in September,2001?Do you remember piles of corpse had been found in the ruins?

yeah, long!
小日本见鬼去吧。
30年后给他们 东京大屠杀，来报我们南京大屠杀的这一深仇大恨！

You have blew up Iraq.Some of you think it is necessary to help Iraqis escape form "dictatorship" and fight against terrorists in Iraq.Indeed,Americans find nothing there but gallons of oil.

How about the result?Millions of Iraqis had been killed.The massacre is continued.Thousands of ordinary soldiers from US are been killed.Freedom? Justice? Democracy?
NO! It's about money and power.The troops are fighting for a lie!

Nobody living in Xinjiang,including Hans and Uyghurs wannna go to be another Iraq.

Furthermore,Rebiya Kadeer is NOT LOCAL PEOPLE any longer.She is in America now.She wears mask pretending to be a philanthrope.But she is a corrupt officer who have been HATED by LOCALS for quit a long time.She earn her forturne in Guangzhou by mysterious methods.It's hard to say how she got so many money in such a short time!

In ancient times,the ancestors of Hans and Uyghurs fight shoulder by shoulder to go against Xiongnu(Huns).
在古代，汉族和维族的祖先肩并肩一起抗击匈奴。

In modern times,Hans and Uyghurs will fight shoulder by shoulder again to defeat any enemies by the name of hegemonism!
在现代，汉族和维族将会再次肩并肩，与任何霸权主义的敌人战斗到底！

A better candidate to Nobel Peace Prize is Bin Laden. He displayed great courage in the face of evil American empire. He successfully planned and carried out a kick in America's big fat white ass, which is the only language arrogant Americans understand. Bin Laden should be norminated as the candidate, and by doing this America can win the 'hearts and minds' of Muslims all over the world, finally.

no moment of silence or reminiscents of 9/11? You wicked wicked ex-pat.

Branden!It`s obvious that you know quite few about Uyghurs .I guess you`d been living in china for many years, but , unfortunately, you were in the inner land of the mainland china,so i can say you know nothing about Sinkiang,just like other Hanzu people who live in the inner land. Tell me,Branden,aren`t there so many Hanzu Thieves in china? I think you`re proud of being a Han,so what you can be proud of? - population?

Job discrimination, Racial confilicts ,restriction of religious belief, extream taxes , ... ... ... @~$%?/!*>...

It's so stupid for you to write such an article in September 11,Michael.

Alien,you should stay in China for a longer time.It`s obvious that you know quite few about China. There is no restriction of religious belief.For example,I am religious. FLG is not religion~~ anyway. You can try FLG in USA. Try it by yourself.If you were still alive,you should tell me what had happened during...Hehe...

Well,enough,this’s the stupidest news I’ve ever heard! Americans should be more intelligent~

Wow~~Iran and N.Korea...hehe~~ You should read the headline of taday's newspaper.

hi! Long!It looks like you've been to sinkiang. but i'd been in Urumqi for 6 years.I think i know enough .Yes, you're right, there is no restriction of religious belief in other provinces,you know cause most people are none religious ,and no religion no restriction for sure.this is just what i mean. and FLG is different from religion. I think you have to be more conscious about the problem,friend.
I know it is no use to argue about this ,but at least ,people can't escape the reality.
Thank you.

i agree with alien, coz we need to hav some reality chek, n the reality is, if the uighurs want independence, they will DIE!

Unfortunately，you are wrong,alien.branden is not living in the inner land of the mainland china.
Maybe he is in another continent/island:)
And,my friend,you can also travel into inner land provinces,if it's convenient.You will be astonished to find most people are religious,more or less(including members of C_C_P).You should learn more about Chinese customs,which is too different from that of your hometown.By the way,I enjoy Uyghurs' food very much.It's so delicious. There are lots of restaurants hold by Uyghurs Muslim in inner land provinces.

Yes.There are different kinds of problems with our country.We have never denied that.China is a developing country.But,no country is perfect.You must admit that America has its own problems,either.What we should be concerned with is how to understand each others.You should try to think of the problems in our view.

Anyway,Mr.branden,keep your head.
哥们，别太愤青了~！搞的人家还以为我们和Nazi似的。

Hi Long, You are so Non-sense.
Before come to here, you should shake youe head, and read more.
I think you did not know any thing about Uyghur.
Uyghur and Chinese is same as fire and water.

Rebiya Qadir surely deserves this prize. She is the person who has sacrificed all her wealth and freedom try to bring democracy to the region where human rights are heavily violated by Chinese central government. Now she is fighting not only for her people, but also for the whole Chinese people to get democracy. Without a leader like her, who is advocating peaceful resolution for the Uyghur case, with the vicious circle of Chinese policy, sooner or later this Uyghur region become a place of uneasiness, terror and may be a large scale of war. On the other hand, her struggles will ultimately precipitate the largest communistic regimy (with strong ultranationalistic view) to collapse, so that the world can avoid another cold war. Long live Rabiye! You are our mother!!!!!!!!!!!!

President Bush was referred to as 'deveil' in the UN convention, and delegates from all around the world applaused and laughed. I guess USA can't win the 'hearts and minds' of the world by invading other countries and killing the women and children. US is the No.1 threat to world peace. Just count how many wars they have fought since WW2. They are everywhere, involved in any single war directly or indirectly. How they can have the never to criticise other countries is really beyond me. As a Chinese saying goes, you can't call others devils when you own whole body is covered by red hair.

your mum, ie Kadeer, can go to the hell!

Ahtisaari, Kadeer vie for 2006 Nobel peace prize
28 September 2006
Agence France Presse

OSLO, Sept 29, 2006 (AFP) -

Former Finnish president Martti Ahtisaari is tipped to win this year's Nobel Peace Prize for brokering a peace accord in Aceh, though he faces stiff competition from Chinese exile Rebiya Kadeer and Indonesian President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono.

With just days to go before the big announcement on October 13, the leanings of the Norwegian Nobel Committee remain a tightly-guarded secret.

In all, 191 candidates are in the running for the prestigious award, including 168 individuals and 23 organisations.

Ahtisaari, president of Finland between 1994 and 2000, has been nominated several times in recent years and appears to be leading this year's field.

He oversaw talks last year in Helsinki that led to a peace agreement between the Indonesian government and rebels in the Aceh province and put an end to a three-decade conflict that killed some 15,000 people.

"I think that Ahtisaari is the clear favorite this year due to his work in Aceh," said Stein Toennesson, head of the Oslo Peace Research Institute (PRIO) and one of the only peace experts in Norway willing to speculate about possible laureates.

"It's the only peace process that has really been successful," he added.

The 69-year-old Finn is currently the UN special envoy for talks on the final status of Kosovo, a role that has earned him praise from Albanians but criticism from Serbs.

"Statements by the Serbs could work against him. As well as his style, he has a very direct approach in his statements. But the Nobel Committee is aware of his personality," said Toennesson. "And the fact that it could also be necessary to speak frankly in Kosovo."

Others who stand a good chance of winning include Indonesian President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono, for his role in talks leading to the August 2005 Aceh peace agreement.

"Yudhoyono's chances are good because he is Muslim and it is conceivable the Committee would like to award the prize to a Muslim. During the Mohammed cartoon row he wrote a very balanced article (on the crisis) in the International Herald Tribune," Toennesson said.

Choosing Yudhoyono could however prove controversial in the wake of Indonesia's execution of three Catholics on September 22. The trio were convicted of leading a militia that killed Muslims during clashes between the two faiths in 2000-2001 that left more than 1,000 people dead.

The PRIO director noted Yudhoyono's military career could also count against him, giving the advantage to China's Rebiya Kadeer, the exiled leader of the Uighur ethnic group.

"She's the ideal candidate: she's a woman, she's Muslim and she's Chinese," Toennesson said.

The Uighurs, the largest ethnic group in China's far northwest Xinjiang region, are an overwhelmingly Muslim, Turkic-speaking people. They accuse the ruling Chinese of political, religious and cultural repression.

While bookies judge Ahtisaari, Yudhoyono and Kadeer the frontrunners, the Indonesian president remains their favorite.

An Australian Internet betting site, Centrebet, has quoted odds of 2.75-to-1 for Ahtisaari to win, and puts Yudhoyono 3-to-1 and Kadeer at 15-to-1.

Other possible winners include the Vietnamese monk Thich Quang Do, currently under house arrest, for his work in promoting democracy and freedom of expression.

While the Nobel Committee never discloses who is on the list of potential laureates, those who nominate candidates are allowed to disclose their choice.

Known to be on the list for this year are thus Indian spiritual leader Sri Sri Ravi Shankar and rock star Bob Geldof for his fight against poverty.

But other names that have circulated include former US secretary of state Colin Powell for his work to establish peace in Sudan, and the Tiananmen Mothers for their fight for democracy in China.

The laureate will receive the award, as tradition dictates, on December 10, the anniversary of the death in 1896 of prize founder Alfred Nobel.

The prize includes a medal, a diploma and a cheque for 10 million kronor, (1.37 million dollars, 1.07 million euros).

Last year the prize went to the UN nuclear watchdog IAEA and its Egyptian director Mohamed ElBaradei.

To hell with Red Chinese hegemonists! They spread and miseries in Korea, Vietnam, Malaysia, Cambodia, and Indonesia. Nobody wanted their stupid Marxist-Leninist BS ideology.........

Chinese Muslim activist, among candidates for Nobel, says prize would honor her people
12 October 2006
Associated Press Newswires

WASHINGTON (AP) - A Chinese Muslim businesswoman who spent almost six years in prison without ever being told why says if she were awarded the Nobel Peace Prize it might help her people against "cultural genocide" that China is waging on her people.

Rebiya Kadeer is among an undisclosed number of nominees for the prize to be announced Friday in Oslo, Norway. While the five-member awards committee never gives clues to its thinking, even to confirming names of nominees, there has been speculation in Oslo that the award might go this year to Kadeer or another human rights figure.

"If I were given this Nobel Peace Prize it means so much to my people because my people are facing cultural genocide in this world," Kadeer said Thursday. It would be "recognition of the plight of my people," she said in an interview with Associated Press Television.

Kadeer is a member of the Uighur minority, Muslims from the Xinjiang autonomous region of northwestern China. They are ethnically related to Central Asians, not Chinese.

Kadeer was arrested in 1999 as she approached a hotel where staff members of the U.S. Congressional Research Service waited to meet with her. She was held in solitary confinement for three years and was released only last year after the United States and others agitated for her.

She said the only reason she was given for her arrest was that she had sent Chinese-language newspapers to her husband in the United States. She said, however, the reason probably had more to do with documents she had for the American officials.

"I have been campaigning for the human rights and freedom of the Uighur people peacefully and patiently. My hope is to conduct a dialogue directly with the Chinese government so that the Uighur problem will be resolved," she said in Thursday's television interview.

She said she believed that if her work were to be honored with the Nobel Peace Prize, it would "help the Uighur people to have freedom of speech and live like a human being."

Being an American of Chinese descent, and having relatively nationalist Chinese parents, I always feel stretched by the information I receive. When I was young, I had a very good experience in China, and having distant relatives affiliated with the CCP, it's very difficult for me to conceive, emotionally that is, a lot of the atrocities claimed to be performed. However, here in America, it is very rare to get a positive or even objective opinion on human rights in China. The accounts I get from my Chinese and American sources are so contrasted that there isn't very much middle ground on which I can stake a compromise. However, whatever the facts are, I feel that there is too much hatred in the world. Having been raised Chinese (I guess you can say Han, although I had never realized inter-racial and ethnicity issues and tensions in China nor identified myself specifically as Han until coming to America despite having three aunts of ethnic minority), and having made defensive in America of my homeland, I am inclined to believe the more positive aspects of China although even I have to admit a lot of its more degenerative qualities. I feel that there is a potential for us to all live peacefully in the world and I desperately HOPE that it is not through strife, splitting and separatism, although I cannot ultimately deny the rights of a group who strive for independence no matter how important I think they are to China or how important I think China is for them. But, to this, I know too little on the subject. I am frankly appalled at some of the attitudes expressed in the comments, although not entirely surprised. Many Chinese, including myself, harbor certain resentments toward ex-imperialist nations most notably Japan, for certain ills in the past. I acknowledge that it is very hard to "let go" of the past; in fact, I admit to once being a ranting and raving Chinese nationalist who hated the "Japs" (and was so caught up in the fervor of my hatred that I always left a ridiculous number of typos in my heated comments^_^). However, I believe, at least intellectually, that there are more fruitful ways of resolving problems than spitting and cursing at each other, which only bring about continued hatred and resentment. I adamantly believe that there is a definite need to address the Nanjing Massacre, European looting of Chinese historical treasures, and other events in our collective past, but by wishing a Tokyo massacre, or even by refusing to see our own mistakes and follies past and present, we are only lowering ourselves to the level of the demons who have plagued our grandparents and ancestors. More over, we need to recognize that modern Japanese, Europeans, and Americans, are not the barbaric conquerors of 60, 100, and 200 years ago. These citizens of the world are not the same ones who murdered and raped our people, plundered our national treasures, or put up signs like "no dogs and Chinese allowed". Granted, in some people, many prejudices still exist, but by being so offensive ourselves, we are only making their their unwarranted disdain warranted, keeping their belief of us as primitive, uneducated, barbaric, irrational, and petty, prevalent and alive. I don't believe that a ten year old Japanese boy going to school in Tokyo is the monster who killed my grandmother's first husband and made my uncle fatherless before his birth. I believe a very deluded Japanese soldier seventy years ago performed that task believing that he is glorifying his emperor and nation. Why then should I curse the innocent boy and hope for his death? Just because he speaks the same language and bear some sort of a visual resemblence to the afore mentioned monster? In that case all the people of the wrold would be cursed and dead. I hope that in the future, problems of the past can be resolved in a more rational and productive manner. I agree that some of the demands other nations make on China are hypocrytical, but that doesn't mean that they are of no value. Should China work on human rights? Probably. Just because America or Japan, or Britain, who have their own issues, utter those demands, doesn't make it more or less true, or more or less relevant to China.

Two sons of exiled Uighur Muslim leader tried in China: sister
27 October 2006
Agence France Presse

WASHINGTON, Oct 27, 2006 (AFP) -

Two sons of Rebiya Kadeer, the leader of China's Uighur Muslim minority in exile in the United States, have been put on trial in China on tax fraud charges, their sister said Friday.

Kahar Abdureyim and Alim Abdureyim were not allowed to defend themselves in the closed-door trial in China's northwest Xinjiang region on Friday, their sister Akida Abdureyim said, quoting relatives who spoke to her from the region.

"It was a closed trial, only four family members were allowed to attend, every one else were officials," she told AFP. "They reportedly looked frail and Kahar was seen in tears."

The hearing lasted about four hours and the verdict will be announced in about 10 days, she said.

Amnesty International said after the pair were arrested in June that Alim had been tortured.

The fate of another of Kadeer's sons, Ablikim, also under arrest and last reported to have been hospitalized after being beaten by police, is not known.

He was charged with "subversion," a serious political charge, in addition to a tax fraud charge.

In addition, another daughter of Kadeer, Rouxian Gul Kadeer, is under house arrest.

Rebiya Kadeer is the symbol of struggle for greater rights for the 10 million Uighurs, the largest and overwhelmingly Muslim ethnic group in China's far northwest Xinjiang region.

She was imprisoned for six years after being accused by Beijing of leaking "state secrets" to a US congressional delegation visiting the region in the 1990s.

She was released in March 2005 and allowed to go into exile in the United States, from where she continues to speak up for her people.

Kadeer, a millionaire businesswoman before her arrest, was among nominees for the Nobel Peace Prize this year won by Bangladesh economist Muhammad Yunus.

Kadeer's younger brother Nanat Kadeer was picked up and severely beaten up by Chinese authorities a day after the Nobel prize was announced on October 13, said Akida Abdureyim.

"The Chinese authorities are continuing to harass our family," she said. "They think this is a way of silencing my mother," she added.

I do agree that the fate of xinjiang should be decided by the local people, but I don't think Kadeer's ideas are those of the people! She is more a splittist than a woman for peace.The main aim of her support and leading of Uighur militants terrorists is to satisfy her private appetite of politics.She want to be a leader, and she want to be famous.Her twisty desire lured her to do fissive things and advote her own 'human rights' to achieve her own political aims.In fact most of people of local xinjiang Province have fused the big family of our republic.We can see Uigur people living happily all over the republic.I think the Nobel Committee's nomination of Kadeer is opposite to all Chinese people especially to Uigur people.And it's opposite to the will of Mr Nobel too.If Kadeer is nominated ,she will be more furious and aggressive to engage in splittism.So all Chinese should combat the nomination, and people all over the world should also support Chinese people to combat splittism of Kadeer, because it's part of the fight for peace.

Ask ANY Uyghur living in XinJiang (or anywhere else) whether or not he/she would like to see their land gaining independence and with 99.9% probability you will get a positive answer.
Isn't that the same idea Kadeer's been trying to promote too??
Someone has mentioned she can't be counted as a local anymore as she fled from XinJiang. But what could she have possibly achieved in the country where she gets locked up for expressing her oppinions? Nothing's my guess. Now, living in America, she's making a huge contribution to the popularization of the problem in the world.
She IS a true representative of Uyghur nation and deserves the Nobel Peace prize more than anyone else.

China defends jailing of renowned activist's son
8 December 2006
Reuters News

BEIJING, Dec 8 (Reuters) - The jailing last month of the son of an exiled Muslim dissident by a Chinese court was completely legal, the government said on Friday, rejecting criticism that the trial was either unfair or politically motivated.

Alimu Ahbudurimu was convicted of evading taxes worth 208,430 yuan ($26,630) and sentenced to seven years in jail, the official Xinhua news agency said last month.

It said his brother, Kahaer Ahbudurimu, was also found guilty of evading nearly 2.5 million yuan of taxes but spared a jail term.

The two are sons of Rebiya Kadeer, an ethnic Uighur who was jailed for five years in China for providing state secrets to foreigners before she was sent into exile in the United States last year. She was nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize this year.

"Rebiya Kadeer's two sons -- Alimu Ahbudurimu and Kahaer Ahbudurimu -- had engaged in tax evasion activities, which were against Chinese laws," the Information Office of the State Council, or cabinet, said in a telephoned statement to Reuters.

"The court in Urumqi handled the trial and sentence according to the law," it added, referring to the capital of the far western region of Xinjiang, home to the Turkic-speaking Uighur minority.

"China is a country ruled by law, and so anyone who breaches the law must be punished," the statement said. "Saying that China is using the sentence to get back at Kadeer politically is groundless."

One foreign rights activist said at the time that the jailing was retribution for Kadeer's advocacy of Uighur rights, adding there was "great doubt" about the fairness of the trial.

Kadeer, president of the Uighur American Association, has pledged to champion the rights of Uighur women and children, lamenting that many girls ended up working as prostitutes in Chinese cities and boys became thieves or pickpockets.

Kadeer was once a member of the top advisory body to China's parliament but fell from grace and was arrested in 1999 while on her way to meet U.S. congressmen visiting Xinjiang.

China keeps a tight grip on oil-rich Xinjiang, which shares borders with three former Soviet Central Asian republics, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Russia and Mongolia.

China considers Uighur militants terrorists and blames them for a string of bombings and assassinations in the 1990s.

But human rights groups say China has used its support for the U.S.-led war on terror to justify a crackdown on Uighurs, including arbitrary arrests and use of the death penalty. ($1=7.825 Yuan)

I can only ask those spitting on America's interventions, if they would have felt the same way during WW2, or when the Flying Tigers defended China with their own lives. Even before Pearl Harbor, Americans were giving their lives to help China. I guess we should have just minded our own business then perhaps Pearl Harbor would not have happened. We have our problems, but we have always championed our friends, and when these friends need our help, we are there, with money, with troops, with aid, but when it is over, these same people spit profanities at us. Personally, I would love America to just become a total isolationist country, have all you ingrates stay home and quit spending my tax money on your internal problems. I get sick of hearing from you whinners who have done nothing to help anyone, including your own country.

As far as imperialism goes, geography changes with history. China was not always the large country it is now. How did it get so big?

It`s so clear in the Chinese history that Uighurs are the last generation of the Huns who live beside the Chinese border. In fact, Uighurs are the historical, and modern enemy for the chinese. The modern"huns" also need to be cleaned up if they dont accept the Chinese rule in Xinjiang.